Monday, May 5, 2008

The 13 Principles of Prosperity and a Critique

Principle 1: God is the author of prosperity (i.e. Principles Govern). No argument with this one, although a discussion of “principles” is detailed below.
Principle 2: Faith begins with self-interest. This is a stretch of ideas. This is taking faith, which is a belief or hope that something is true even though you have not directly experienced it, and saying that in order for you to have faith, you must first be interested in yourself. Does someone rush into a burning building with the hope that they can rescue someone because of self-interest? Does someone pray for the recovery of someone else because self-interest? It is true that a person may have concern for the well-being of their soul which starts them to exercise faith in a religious sense, but that’s a application of faith to his own self, not a principle that that is where faith starts.
Principle 3: Agency implies stewardship. I heartily agree. Although I believe you can have agency with no stewardship. For example, a slave still has agency over his own behavior, although he actually owns nothing, is responsible for nothing, except his own behavior. So I agree that agency implies (but does not necessitate) stewardship.
Principle 4: Perspective determines action. Perspective is a factor in one determining his action. Why someone does something has many facets and is the basis for all sorts of schools of thought and explanations. I think it would be more correct to say that perspective affects actions. Otherwise, it must be the case that no one would ever act differently unless their perspective changed, and everyone would always act differently if their perspective changed.
Principle 5: People are assets. This is an economic description, and only makes sense in an economic sense. You wouldn’t say, “my mother is an asset” or “my baby is an asset.” But since these are “principles of prosperity” we’ll consider that this is only in the economic sense, where people are acting in an economic role (as in a business), but it does not go beyond that.
Principle 6: Human life value is the source and creator of all property value. This almost made sense, but got confused along the way. Why does property (things that can be owned) have any value? Why does your house, your patent, or your money have value? Is it because of the value of human life? Does the value of a person create the value of your car? A person created your car that has value, but did the value of that person do it? I think this is trying to say that value comes from people creating it, and the fact that people can create things is one of the things that creates value of human life. But I would still argue, if I find a lump of gold in a creek, who was the source and creator of the value of that gold?
Principle 7: Dollars follow value. I agree in this statement, but I don’t think it is a principle. I agree that in general, things of value have a higher price than things of lesser value. But price and value are not the same thing. How many dollars follow how much you value you cat, or time with your kids? How many dollars (or other currency) followed the Apollo missions to the moon? Does anyone ever create something of value yet not receive any compensation for it? If so, then dollars sometimes follow value.
Principle 8: Exchange creates wealth. This is half correct, especially given principles 6 and 7 above. Here, I think wealth is meant to mean the accumulation of things of value. If people create value, then exchange cannot. What exchange does is facilitate the distribution of wealth. Furthermore, if people can specialize, then they can be more effective in producing one type of a thing of value, which they can exchange with other people doing the same thing, which increases the total amount of things of value that people have. So exchange frees up people to specialize in producing a particular type of value, causing more of that particular thing of value to be produced, and if people produce different things of value to a greater degree than before, and the exchange those items, there is more total wealth. But exchange without specialization and greater production wouldn’t create more wealth. For example, how much wealth is created if my neighbors and I continually trade the same DVD’s and furniture with each other, over and over. Also, specialization doesn’t always mean production of things of value will increase. Exchange + specialization + increased production of things that are valued = greater total wealth.
Principle 9: Profit is the tool of validation. This is another statement, not a principle. If you produce something of value, making a profit on that would indicate that you are producing something that has value for less than the cost of producing that thing (hence the profit).
Principle 10: Productivity is the standard. Another statement. What standard? Whose standard?
Principle 11: Force destroys freedom and prosperity. Agreed, except “force” would need to be defined. Most people would agree that physically taking someone’s car is force, but what about misrepresenting an investment plan? What about using a person’s weakness to get them to do something they wouldn’t otherwise do? Is that force? Also, force is justified in some scenarios, just like protecting yourself from being robbed. Does that destroy freedom and prosperity? So perhaps it’s the unjustified or unethical use of force that destroys freedom and prosperity. This them forces (laugh) us to determine the proper use of force, and what make force proper versus improper.
Principle 12: Collective action has no unique moral authority. I think the idea here is that doing something collectively does not change whether something is right or wrong, just because it is done collectively instead of individually. This idea comes from Bastiat where he says that a group of people does not have the moral authority to do something that an individual does not have the authority to do. This is often used as a rebuttal to socialism as being without moral authority, since an individual can’t take property from another person, neither can a group of people. I don’t think this is quite right, or at least it doesn’t apply in all situations. What right do I have in arresting someone? What right do I have controlling access to protected airspace? What right do I have determining if someone committed a crime? No person has any of these rights, yet I think most people would accept that these are legitimate functions of government. If they are legitimate functions of government that no individual has, where does government get the moral authority for them? (I’ll leave it at that point)
Principle 13: Personal liberty requires private property. This I totally agree with, although few people would disagree. The disagreement seems to revolve around the use of that private property. Owning something without being able to use it would negate owning it. But to what extent can you use your property? Can you do anything you want with your house and yard (no, there is zoning and building codes)? Can you do anything you want to your car (no, there are safety and emission standards)? Can an airline do whatever it wants with the maintenance of its airplanes (no, there are regulations)? This isn’t so much a disagreement with this principle, but rather that the principle is not very meaningful because it doesn’t really get at the nature of the debates that go on today about the use of private property.

Are These All the Principles?
So is that all? Are there only 13 principles for prosperity? If there were other principles, then if someone were to adhere to these 13 principles, they still might not obtain prosperity. That would be a good thing to know. Perhaps these are 13 “of the principles” of prosperity. If that were so, then that means there are other principles yet to be discovered. But if whoever wrote these principles did obtain prosperity, and he listed these 13 principles as how he obtained that prosperity, then that would really mean that these 13 principles are what enabled him to obtain his prosperity, but not necessarily someone else, since someone else may need to engage other unlisted principles to obtain their prosperity. Perhaps a better description would be “13 Ideas that helped lead to my prosperity (may not be complete or apply to you).” If that were the description, how differently would students and followers adopt and enact these principles? Maybe they would be less likely to make certain mistakes (because they wouldn’t fear violating a principle) and they might find other unknown principles.

The Mistake of Taking Experiences and Converting Them to General Rules
It would be a mistake for someone to take the steps that they felt led them to a particular outcome and declare that those steps are universal for everyone or even unbreakable principles. This is taking the specific, and declaring it to be the general. What are the principles of getting into college? I could tell you what worked for me and even what I think other people should do, but I wouldn’t declare them “principles” to get into college. What are the principles of a good marriage? Of winning the 100-meter dash? Of overcoming depression? Lots of things can work, and maybe there are common threads, but it’s quite a claim to declare the “principles” of winning the 100-meter dash, etc.

There is also a danger in declaring something to be a principle when it’s not. I was recently reading about the early Christians and the sects that formed early on. A central belief of one the sects was that physical matter was evil, but spiritual things were good. This doesn’t sound too bad, until you read how they took this principle to them to its logical conclusions. If matter was evil, then God must not have created it. That means someone or something else created it. That means that God did not created the world. And if Jesus was God, then He would not enter a body made of evil matter, therefore he only took on the appearance of a body, but it wasn’t actually physical matter. This might sound silly to us, but it was the doctrine of some major sects 1900 years ago. I am not trying to make a comparison between the 13 Principles of Prosperity and early Christianity as if they were of the same severity, I’m just using another example of when a faulty principle can yield very wrong ideas, even if sound logic is applied.

What the 13 Principles Refer to
What do the “13 Principles of Prosperity” refer to? Do they refer to principles of human behavior, or principles about how the universe just “is?” They are not statements of personal behavior, which I think is the biggest shortcoming. These are not principles about what you should do, but rather the way things are.

What Would You Say the Principles of Prosperity Are?
If you were to come up with “Principles of Prosperity” what would you list? I would have to first define prosperity (I am only considering this in the financial sense here). I would define “prosperity” as being financially able to do the things I want to do. What do I want to do? Well, that changes and means different things at different time, and so what I consider “prosperity” would change also. But some things would probably remain consistent throughout my life. For example, I would rather be a poor freeman instead of a rich slave. Having a $800,000 house with a $4000 a month mortgage making $300,000 year sounds good….in some scenarios. Here’s when it doesn’t sound good: when I need to work 80 hours a week to make that much money, or when I depend on one job from a single employer and the next best job only pays $60,000 a year, or when I just an adjustable rate mortgage whose interest rate and payment are going to double in the next few months, or if my job and my assets values depend on an continual increase in price levels. What this drives at is the element of security as being integral to prosperity.

What is Prosperity?
Under some definitions of prosperity, a person could be prosperous during an economic boom, but be devastated during a downturn. This can especially happen if the value of assets and the flow of income are heavily dependent on there not being a downturn. Anybody can make money when all stocks are going up, but who goes bankrupt, and who doesn’t, when stocks just go flat, let alone decrease? How unwise it would be to lose your assets just because their values didn’t go up enough. For example, if I own my home debt-free, but take out a new mortgage on the total value (say $200,000), and invest it in the stock market because I see it going up and up, what am I going to do if the stock market goes down? What if I am paying my mortgage and living expenses on the gains from the stocks going up and up? When the stocks stop going up and up, I have no gains, I have no funds to pay for my mortgage and living expense. Then my mortgage may get behind or default and I could lose my house. I may also have to borrow money to pay my living expenses. I would have been better off, more prosperous, had I left the house debt-free and gotten some other job. I might have appeared to have been prosperous for a time, but what I was really doing was taking on massive risk that would cause me serious hardship if things didn’t go my way. Maybe things would work out, maybe not. That’s what risk is: uncertainty.

One Lost Principle: Managing Uncertainty to a Level You Can Handle
A principle I would add is: manage uncertainty to a level you can handle. Would you rather have the boat, the big house, the month-long vacations for 2 years, only to lose everything the next year? What about a choice between having the boat for two years, and possibly losing the boat next year, but keep the house. That’s not nearly as bad. The point is that people at different times in their lives can taken on more and different types of risk, and that they should only take on risk that does not jeopardize their financial well-being. Some may argue that you have to take risks to make money and that you may have to sacrifice in order to make it big. Some people have made it big by betting the farm. Some people have made it big at the casino, too. You do not want to bet the retirement savings on a big return right before you retire. You do not want to risk your house when you have 4 kids at home. If you have $100,000 extra that you do not need for your current living expenses and could stand to lose it, then you can take the riskiest investment you can find, because if you lose it, you haven’t put yourself in financial jeopardy. If you had only $5000 in savings but $100,000 in equity, then investing that $100,000 of equity in the same risky investment would be unwise.

Another Lost Principle: Credit Only Facilitates the Creation of Wealth, but It Doesn't Create It
Every economic boom seems to bring out books and seminars and plans for people to “grow their money” or invest it in places that give a high rate of return. When a person takes $1000 and gets $1200 back, this seems like a pretty good thing to keep doing. There’s nothing wrong with getting a positive high rate of return by lending money to someone or some company. But, that person or company must be increasing productivity greater than what they are paying you in order for there to actually be wealth creation. Otherwise, it is just shifting money around.

For example, if I lend Bob $1000 to start a lawn care business with the agreement that he will pay me back $1200 at the end of the year, unless Bob actually provides $1200 of service that didn’t exist before, no wealth was created. In fact, if Bob doesn’t create $1200 of new service, I am actually going to take money from Bob, even if he pays the $1200. Bob would be worse off, although I would be better off.

This is a conundrum with asset bubbles and the boom-bust cycle. If productivity is not increasing, and only asset prices are, then there is no increase in wealth. At best there is a transfer, most likely an unbalanced one so that some gain while others lose. It doesn’t matter how creative or “non-traditional” the financing or how the money gets moved around. If there is no corresponding increase in productivity, there is no increase in wealth. Increasing assets prices are not an increase in wealth. For one person they may get more of the wealth, but the pie has not changed. Otherwise, we could just double the prices of all homes and stocks and we’d all be rich.

So for any use of credit, the lender is lending money to the borrower to facilitate the use of something else (like a house or a business plan), but only if those funds facilitate an increase in productivity will there be an increase in wealth. It is true that you may only be concerned about your own wealth, but not the total pie, which I don’t have much problem with. Just remember that unless productivity increases, your taking wealth from someone else. This is why ponzi schemes are illegal: it is impossible for them to create any wealth. They can only transfer it, from the people at the bottom to the people at the top. And a lot of sub-prime borrowers have discovered that getting a house they couldn’t afford otherwise did not create any wealth anywhere. No one was more productive by them taking out the loan. They just hoped the transfer of wealth would go in their favor, or that they’re future productivity would be able to fulfill the obligation of the mortgage (note that the mortgage did nothing to increase their future productivity). Just remember that financing assets with no increase in productivity does not create any wealth.

Other Lost Principles
I’m sure there are other lost principles. Readers will come up with many I imagine, but this is all I will list now.

9 comments:

Aaron said...

Wow, so much to respond to...

I will post a more specific response to the many points you made in this post later. For now, let me just say that it is obvious to me that you have not listened to enough of Rick's radio shows or read enough of his material to understand what he means by each of the 13 Principles or even his definition of 'Principle'. I was in the same boat when I first came across Free Capitalist Radio back in February of 2006. Much of it didn't make sense to me, especially with my current programming. But with patience and a willingness to learn, I came to understand the principles and to rationally come to the conclusion that they were true. I continue to this day to obtain a deeper understanding of them as I attempt to apply them in my life and I express my gratitude to the Lord daily for bringing me into contact with Rick, Garrett G., Garrett W., Ray, Les... My life has changed on a fundamental level and even though at times I am tempted to think, "Why, oh why, didn't I take the Blue Pill?" I find myself glad that my understanding of reality and of my place in it has increased and that I have more personal power in my new found stewardships (where much is given, much is required) and that I CAN live the life I was meant to live! I don't mean to be so dramatic, but this is how I feel about my new life and I'm anxious to share my joy with everyone around me. I would suggest that you really study what Rick has taught without prejudice, do some soul searching, and allow yourself to admit that maybe you don't have all the answers. I don't have them, and Rick, I'm sure, would be the first to admit that he doesn't have them. He has some of them and as one who has been warned, it is incumbent upon him, and the rest of us who have been warned, to warn our brothers and sisters. I use the term 'warn' in the same way it is meant in the scriptures: To spread the truth to others.

Utahn said...

"For now, let me just say that it is obvious to me that you have not listened to enough of Rick's radio shows or read enough of his material to understand what he means by each of the 13 Principles or even his definition of 'Principle'."

I predicted this response in my very first post, that people would claim I haven't studied the material enough or read the right book or whatever.

"But with patience and a willingness to learn, I came to understand the principles and to rationally come to the conclusion that they were true."

This sure sounds like a slight insinuation that since I disagree, I didn't have enough patience or willingness to learn, or I haven't look at it rationally. But, perhaps not. And you are basically bearing your testimony about it, which is something I mentioned I witnessed people in my own experience in a pozni scheme company (not saying Free Capitalist is). It could (could) be a counterfeit to testimony of things that are really true. Since there is no other defense, then maybe by saying it is true the questioning will stop. Maybe, I'm not certain this is the case here.

"I continue to this day to obtain a deeper understanding of them as I attempt to apply them in my life and I express my gratitude to the Lord daily for bringing me into contact with Rick, Garrett G., Garrett W., Ray, Les... My life has changed on a fundamental level and even though at times I am tempted to think..."

Nevermind, I was right. You are bearing your "testimony" of all this. That might work in church, but not with investing. Sorry.

Aaron said...

Utahn said: "You are bearing your "testimony" of all this. That might work in church, but not with investing. Sorry."

Wow! What an amazingly brain off statement! So bearing witness of truth has no place anywhere but in church? We all constantly bear witness (testimony) of our understanding of truth in all areas of our lives whenever we tell someone of our experiences in order to persuade them to see our viewpoint. If I'm talking with my brother about some new knowledge I've obtained, I am essentially 'bearing my testimony' about that new knowledge. If you believe that bearing testimony of truth only works for church, what about other prinicles of the gospel? Is 'being honest in all your dealings' also not applicable to investing? Give me a break.

Utahn said...

aaron: "So bearing witness of truth has no place anywhere but in church?"

Uh, no, that's not what I said. Bearing testimony of something when you have no other argument to make, no other thing you can say, relying on the Spirit to bear witness of what you say is true, only works in church.

What you say has to be true in order for the Spirit to bear testimony. Using testimony as a counterfeit approach of this, as a ploy to not have to respond or prove a point, to me is counterfeit approach to what people do in the church in bearing their testimonies.

Aaron said...

Did I say anything about relying on the spirit when testifying about my beliefs in the things Rick teaches. No, I did not. I was just expressing my beliefs that they are true. I came to a belief and knowledge that they are true because I have applied them in my life and have seen amazing results. What does this have to do with relying on the spirit? On the other hand, have you read the scripture where the Moroni says that by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of ALL things?

Spiffy3 said...

My response:
Principle 1:
Albert Einstein put it something like God does not play dice with the universe.
Principle 2:
In answer to all of you questions: Yes. To further the discussion we must come to a common understanding of the term self-interest.
Principle 3:
The slave still has stewardship. He may not own any tangible object, but that is not the only stewardship possible. Agency is always accompanied by an associated stewardship.
Principle 4:
What you said at the end is a true statement, no one acts differently unless their perspective changes, and everyone always acts differently when their perspective changes. This is the basis of Joseph Smith's statement that he teaches them correct principles and they govern themselves.
Principle 5:
You have obviously not researched the intent and meaning behind this principle. People are the only assets in any economic sense, and are the most important assets in any sense. A house does not pay you a rent check, it is a person who pays it and must always be. My relationships with my wife, mother, children, siblings, extended family, friends, associates, etc. all contribute to my well being and happiness, which is the root of the word wealth. Therefore yes, I would say, "My mother is an asset" in fact I would say she is one of my greatest assets.
Principle 6:
You are misunderstanding the meaning of Human Life Value. It is not referencing the value of a human life, as opposed to their death. It is referencing the value that their life creates for other people and the value that they place on the property they own. A house on the moon, without inhabitants and not being used by anyone is worth a great deal less on the property value side of the equation than a house in a quiet neighborhood, with considerate neighbors, close to a good school, across the street from the church of your choosing, etc.
You are the source and creator of the value of what you value. This principle is saying that nothing is valuable in and of itself, it must be valued by a human being, based on the utility they have for it. Gold, or a car, or a house, or a patent, as you used in your examples, are all only as valuable as the value placed on them by the person who owns them or wants to own them.
Principle 7:
Again you misunderstand the principle. I understand it to mean that dollars are simply the receipt, or evidence that you created value. Where dollars exist, value was created by someone. If I want dollars, the way to get them legitimately is to create value in exchange for them.
Principle 8:
Same as usual. You are basing your disagreement off of a misunderstanding. Which is no doubt the result of your lack of research into these principles and what is intended by them.
Simply put, when we exchange freely, we each receive something which we valued more than what we gave up. Hence we are each wealthier by virtue that we gained more value than we gave up.
Principle 9:
You are using different definition of profit than Rick did when articulating this principle. This is a follow up to principle 8. If both of us are more wealthy after the exchange (profit) that is the evidence that the exchange was valid (involved no coersion or deception).
Principle 10:
Yes all of these principles are statements, as is any description of truth. Productivity is the standard of life. Life must be productive. We must create more value than we consume, or we slowly deteriorate our Human Life Value and eventually die.
Principle 11:
All force destroys freedom and prosperity. Sometimes one's loss of freedom and prosperity is the natural consequence of their choices. Yes, deception is a form of force. I hope you're not implying, though from the content of your entire blog, you seem to have begun with the assumption, that somehow the Free Capitalist Project is "misrepresenting and investment plan"
Principle 12:
Those are some very good questions which I believe you would do well to pursue. They don't change the fact that just because a lot of people have a bad idea, doesn't make it a good idea. I like to accompany this principle with the clarification that just because it has no UNIQUE moral authority, does not mean it has no moral authority at all.
Principle 13:
I can see you agree with the principle. However your point is confusing. All you did is point out the violation of this principle involved in zoning ordinances, government enforce automobile safety standards, and airline regulations.

Are there other principles. Most certainly, but I think most of us have a lot to be getting on with, with these 13 basics. They are principles because they are applicable to everyone and everyone can obtain prosperity by complying with them. If someone would have to use different principles, then they are not principles, they are strategies. These are not "general rules." These principles do not tell anyone what to do, or how to apply them. They are simple statements of truth. A better understanding and application of them leads to prosperity. These principles can be applied equally to getting into college as to obtaining any other desired result. A dependence on God, a recognition that your actions are motivated by a desire to improve yourself and your situation, taking responsibility for your preference, recognizing that your perspective is the basis on which you developed your preference, realizing that the instructors, your fellow students, the counselors, and all the other people are the assets that will help you obtain your goal is essential. I could go on and apply them all to getting into college but I hope you get the idea and can continue on your own.

Rick did not randomly declare these to be principles. He studied the lives of the founders of our nations and many other good books, found that they advocated these as principles, and then articulated them in his own words, using his own understanding. These are mere articulations of the ancient principles talked about by Jefferson, Hamilton, Madison, etc.

I have my own articulation of principles of prosperity. Once you demonstrate that you are not one of the swine before which I won't cast my pearls, I might share them with you.

Your two lost principles are the beginnings of principles, but fall short.
"Managing Uncertainty to a Level You Can Handle"
What about it? Is it good or bad? Does it increase your prosperity or decrease it? It sounds more like a strategy than a principle. It's telling you what to do, rather than stating a truth and letting the individual apply it to their own life.
"Credit Only Facilitates the Creation of Wealth, but It Doesn't Create It"
This is not a statement of truth. Again it is assuming a context which may, or may not exist. Credit is a form of wealth. It is a representation of my reputation with three firms who have been accepted as a standard for judging an individuals tendency and likelihood to repay debts. I would say that if I have a good reputation with those three firms, I have more wealth than if I didn't.

You never did define what makes a principle. Yet you did say several of Rick's are not. On what basis are you making that judgment?

Tim Harper said...

Faith begins with Self-Interest

Someone run into a building to save a human life out of self-interest? You bet! Well, at least for me it would bring me happiness and joy. And, as for having children, we are having a family out of self-interest: It brings us happiness and joy to have children. They make us happy. We enjoy them. We freely choose to do it because our lives are better with them than without them.

People are assets? Well... define asset :) I think this applies on all levels, not just with money or stuff. My wife is a HUGE asset. My family? Huge asset! My life would be less abundant with out them. I'm very grateful for all of the good relationships that I have. Asset, asset asset.

I believe a lot of this critique is coming out of a confusion of terms, which, is understandable. Thanks for putting ideas out into the market place and challenging ideas in sincerity.

Tim

Anonymous said...

I personally agree 100% with 'the Utahn'.... but one thing I can't stand.... is when people use things from the Book of Mormon or D&C or other Mormon books to make an arguement, prove a point, or sway an arguement. There's no evidence that the BoM is real, nor the D&C, so using a possible untruth to prove the point of another possible untruth is crazy. I recently read a book by a Mormon physicist and he was explaining that in reality, there's NO way to know if something is true. He used alot of techno-talk that I'll avoid the embarassment of trying to emulate, but saying that you know these 'principles' of Rick's are true, isn't possible. As simple as that. Unless the Holy Ghost himself came to you and gave you "perfect knowledge", then you would be better off using the statement, "I believe" and never "I know". And using the schoolyard "It's true 'cause I said so" doesn't work. Cause basically that's what you're doing. Someone else can explain in very simple terms why you're wrong, and you try to play the "The-spirit-told-me-it's-true" card. Right. If you were truly a "brain-on" person, you'd see the problem with those kind of statements.

Again. Utahn? I think you're spot on.

Anonymous said...

To whom are you speaking? You're the only one who used any of the phrases that you said you hate it when people use them.

How about "I'm convinced" is that OK to use? Any other phrases that I should run by you to make sure that they are OK with you?